![]() ![]() “I’m glad we had this talk” …maybe WTF …but it was still Holden recognizing his intentions not his actual words. Holden also praises Amos for making the effort. Amos can look at him and understand, without delay. So, he isn’t hard work and he is consistent. Once he cracks Holden, he is an open book. Holden in the other hand becomes much easier. The same goes for Alex, because he gets so nervous or jumbled it’s just harder for Amos to decode. I think she was probably a lot easier for him to understand on the Cant. But, he can’t always get a valid read on Naomi because she is guarded, nuanced and has subtext in her behavior, especially on the Roci. Something that showcases a lot of my favorite Amos scenes.Īmos is very bonded to his crew. Because that is something I feel is so clearly shown on the show. I love the point about how much “work” it is for Amos. For him it’s like constantly running a marathon, so what is the point? Only do it when necessary and seek help. ![]() But, it is broken so it’s exhausting and needs constant maintance. I agree that Amos has a very much still working internal compass with lots of goodness. He is a good person at heart but he wants to be better, and uses his crew to see how to do that. He has one, but it needs a little help sometimes. So I think the external moral compass reading is still valid, with the caveats you laid out so beautifully. He wants to “do right” but he can’t FEEL “right,” he has to think and remember facts about “right,” so that’s why he likes to use people like Naomi and Holden as examples. the expanse discussion amos burton things i obsess about this is how hard i think about everything amos says even in a smut fic my process He has to cognitively figure out what others are feeling and then think of actions or words to respond with that would be helpful or appropriate… that’s a lot of work so he doesn’t do it unless you’re really important to him and you really need it. One day I’ll make my long meta about Amos & Relationships, but the short version is: he has to piece social connection together differently than NTs because he doesn’t consciously feel his own emotions (ask me for citations) and therefore can’t understand others through the process of empathy that NTs use (my extrapolation). It’s the “anything” that he’s willing to do that makes him “bad.” People in his “tribe” and children - he’ll do anything to alleviate their suffering. This leads him to often choose solutions to problems that involve killing - which often seems like the easiest solution when you don’t have the threat of guilt hanging over your head.īut I agree this doesn’t mean he has no capacity for caring. Rather than having no moral compass of his own, he has one that he admits is “fucked,” most obviously in the direction of finding little inherent value in human life. Trying to add my thoughts without referencing spoilers… I totally see what you’re saying about Amos clearly having goodness inside him he wants to do the right thing, and he has some admirable motivations that are all his own. Sometimes the internet delivers what you never knew you needed jamos to perk up my night this is some top-tier banter and spot-on characterization get on this fic rec the expanse amos burton james holden As a big proponent of Nolden, even I’m a little on the fence about it. You could make a very compelling argument for this being a cheating fic, so be warned if that is something you’re sensitive to. It mainly focuses on the TV series, though it borrows elements from the book and also diverges from the sequence of events in S3 E8: It Reaches Out. In Caliban’s War (the book), Amos evades questioning and being recorded by slewing a bunch of NSFW shit whenever there’s cameras on him. Monica Stuart wants the latest scoop on the new “budding romance” on the Rocinante. Amos offers help in the only way he knows how. ![]() Relationships: Amos Burton/Jim Holden, Jim Holden/Naomi Nagata (past), Minor or Background Relationship(s)Ĭharacters: Amos Burton, Jim Holden, Monica StuartĪdditional Tags: Season 3, Episode Tag: S03e08 It Reaches Out, Canon Divergence, Combined Book and Series, Dirty Talk, F riends With Benefits, Masturbation, Frottage, Arguably Cheating, More Tags May Apply Fandom: The Expanse (TV), The Expanse Series - James S.
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